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Social CRM vs Traditional CRM

Last week I attended to a CRM workshop in Dublin. It was about what they called Social CRM, and if you are selling CRM I am sure that you are aware of that, but do we know what is it about in depth?

To be honest I couldn’t find a better comparison between the traditional CRM and the Social CRM than the one provided by Brent´s Social CRM. Lets take a look of that.traditionalcrmsocialcrm_text

After taking a look of that the main conclusions that come up to my mind are:

  • the first step in the relationship is traditionally the campaign, i mean one specific message that is delivered through specific channels in a time frame to the prospects. However this first step using the social networks would be the content as a tool to generate conversations and meaningful relationships.
  • In the traditional CRM divides the customers in the sales cycle but in the social CRM is based in a collaborative relationship creating value for ourselves.

But, does it mean that the Traditional CRM is dead? my opinion is that to leverage the power of the CRM we need both: the operational Traditional CRM but also the content driven Social CRM. Meaning the customer relationship management tools and strategies we needed all along.

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Salesforce, Twitter and the future

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It is about Twitter again. I spoke about how the CRM can look like in the following years, I explained how companies can identify the customer preferences through the web. Well it seems that the companies like Salesforce are taking advantage of this new step of the CRM and they integrated CRM with Twitter.

The integration will be available with the Salesforce Service Cloud package, which already connect customer service applications with cloud computing sites like Facebook, LinkedIn and Google.

The information that this integration can provide to companies is simple, they will be able to search through the ‘tweets’ that happen on Twitter every day to find out relevant conversations. Once an relevant tweet has been identified, a company can capture and monitor the conversation by creating a record in the Service Cloud that tracks the original post and the next replies of that.

“With Salesforce CRM for Twitter, enterprises can replicate this experience by keeping track of the conversations happening right now on Twitter.”

Micro blogging, CRM, Customers, Companies connected. Lets start a new generation of CRM

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Citizen Relationship Management and trees

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If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?” is a philosophical riddle that raises questions regarding observation and knowledge of reality.

Last week I was watching the talk of Sir Ken Robinson and suddenly he mentioned this sentence, and I though about if it is something I am experiencing with the customers… but more important, does it happen in our democratic system?

If we think about politics as (company) and citizens as (customer) the only time that we experience something similar to a real marketplace where you can sell proposals and people can buy them is when we have to vote; the elections. We are already seeing many politicians on both sides of the spectrum fighting for those who have more friends on Facebook, and those with more modern aspect dealing with the tools of the network. On the other hand my perspective is that the network can only be an advantage if it is not only consider as a campaign tool, but allowing the network to change the way that politics currently are, and to listen, interact, learn, collect, and propose to citizens.

The new tools that the network intelligence provides to democracy should help us to be in contact with politics and influence them more than before but also politics can know more about how to reach targeted people with the right message. It is not about how popular as a politician am I inFacebook but in how I can do the segmentation of the citizens not by color of skin or geographically but by communities, by behaviors, something that it is starting to happen now. As citizens we should realized the advantages of the network intelligence in a way of how can our feeling or needs can be solved before, also we may be able to choose not every four years but more often…

In the last American elections politicians parties started to use this “intelligence” in order to know more about us and to run campaigns efficiently, would it be also the moment as citizens to use this “intelligence” to improve our democracy?, we will see. Anyway the future is not in the stars, it is in the cloud, do you remember?

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How to approach a CRM

crm6By definition, CRM is customer relationship management but, depending on the context, it could also mean:

- Management of my customers and prospects.

- Relational marketing management.

- Direct marketing management.

One definition I like is: CRM is any way of interaction that a company has with the customers/prospects and it might provoke an active response and create a direct channel of communication.

We are now very used to knowing many new CRM concepts like, Cloud Computing, SaaS, prospecting with CRM etc. But from the experiences I am having with my customers (sales managers/directors), I am getting very aware that what they are mostly asking for is: “How could I know who what my salesforce is doing”. This is: SFA ( Sales Force Automation) which , from my point of view, it is still the most fashionable CRM concept by far for so many people.

Do you still remember that very often, the sales managers have been managing their staff with the “oldschool” meetings, that normally happen recurrently in Mondays or Fridays?. This is still good and necessary, but for a manager whrn it comes to know what their sales force are doing ( how much pipe are they generating, how many business opportunities they are working on, how much ROI the manager gets for each representative, how much ROI per product/rep. , what are they closing?) It is still pure magic for them to know at real time without using e-mails, or Excel files or calls etc. It is less time consuming for any manager, and also, the control is more accurate. This may still occur en medium size companies.

My intention hereby, is to give the message that SFA is a still a key message for General Business. I know this might be a bit far from normal definitions of CRM, but this is the way I see it is in SMB. (Small Medium Business). My piece of advice here is that, when targeting sales directors of SMB companies, your scoping is going to be right.

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Going deep into consultative selling interactions (2 of 4)

Part 2: What is “Deep Understanding” and why do we need it?

Introduction to “Deep Understanding”

In part one, we understood that we first have to find a prospect who is open to discussing how a new CRM system can benefit them, and then find general pains that we are able to solve before we can get deeper into the conversation. I called the first of these “Finding Interest” (simply enough) and the ladder one “Basic Understanding”. The next step, then, is what I call “Deep Understanding”, and that is the main topic of this article series. In this part of the “deep understanding” phase, I will talk about general topics of discussion that lead to this deep understanding.


The main difference between the “Basic Understanding” phase and the “Deep Understanding” phases are that in the former one, we talk to the prospect about pains they have that are generally solvable by the functionalities of most CRM systems. In the “Deep Understanding” phase, instead, we talk about issues that allow us to understand what makes this specific prospect’s pains unique. This understanding is what makes it possible for us to customize the system and improve their processes, something a “standard solution implemented in a standard way” can not do. This is where consultative selling differs from transactional selling in a fundamental way.


Another way of seeing is that in transactional selling, we are just trying to find someone who is interested in a type of product and then trying to differentiate ourselves by talking about our product and in what ways it is better or different than the competitors’ products. In consultative selling, however, the approach is the other way around. We start by looking at what our prospect and what makes their situation unique, and then propose a customized way for them to improve it.


In my view, “Deep Understanding” is a collection of different aspects that we need to understand about our customer that will help us achieve this customization to their unique situation. I will go through each of these different aspects below.


Tools to understand our prospect

There are generally 5 topics that are applicable to the deep understanding phase. These are:
  • Understanding their timeframe commitments and reasons to keep them…

… so that we can understand the real driving forces behind their needs.

  • Getting information about their decision making process and influencers…

… so that we can see what different needs different people have and address them all.

  • Where we stand compared to our competition and what they like/dislike about them/us…

… so that we can get a deeper understanding for what they are really looking for, and giving it to them. And finally,

  • Getting deep, personal pains…

… which means that we get really personal and to the point where our contact says “I am worried that..” or “it is frustrating when…”, so that we see the true reasons they need a system so that we can solve the real problems.

Strategy and execution - the two final aspects of deep understanding

While the above topics of conversation were mainly tools to get a better understanding the direct pains that the customers suffer, the last two aspects of deep understanding that I will explain in coming chapters will be different in the sense that they are not directly about the pain. Instead, they are about helping the company reach it’s overall strategy, and how CRM can be a part of that. This is where we can really bring value to our prospect.

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CRM in the future. One vision

My colleague Yusuf recommend me to watch this interesting conference. Kevin Kelly shares a fun stat: The World Wide Web, as we know it, is only 5,000 days old.  So the question is, how can we predict what’s coming in the next 5,000 days?

Kevin Kelly talk about how at the beginning, the internet was just a net: linking computers, in 2009 we have a net linking web pages but what is coming next? Kevin Kelly calls it: linking data withing the web… thats is interesting. How can we connect these concepts with CRM?

If the web gets into what Kevin expects it will, then the conclusion is  that it will know everything about you, everything about what you like, everything that you are doing and what are your interest and preferences. It is scary if you are customer but imagine you are a company interested in providing the best services to your customers. But I would like to go deeper.

Now in 2009 customers are used to rate products, to express their preferences, to say how the product should be in the future, to influence other customers to buy one brand, to open themselves to the companies in term of behavior. So if now the customers are providing this information to the world we can wonder if the companies should buy a product to get information about their customers or if can be a better idea to get a service to identify all these information and make it useful for the company.

As conclusion we probably should  speak about “the cloud” and cloud computing. In the CRM market one Salesforce is currently providing platforms for building and running custom applications “in the cloud”, they call it PaaS (Platform as a Service). But also Oracle may be the next one if we read the words of the Executive vice president of product development Chuck Rozwat in Oracle Open World:

“The currently experimental market will mature into a service for businesses as people will migrate more and more serious/mission critical applications to the cloud”

In the next post we will speak about  “cloud computing”.

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Google Insights and CRM

Last week I discovered Google Insights and as we do in this blog, I tried to connect it to CRM . This tool was initially launched with the advertisers in mind, and adds some cool new features like a world heat map to graphically display search volume and regional interest. It provides us a tool to understand and find out behaviors.

I search for CRM in the world and lets see the results:

  • Interest over time: In order to get a fair conclusion lets see what is “interest over time”. The graphic is clear. The interest of CRM is less now than in 2004.

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  • Regional interest:In this case we should be careful. We must take into account that the search index represents how many searches have been done for CRM, relative to the total number of searches done on Google over time. So when we observe some countries with a high search volume we should think why.

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  • Search terms related CRM: Here Google Insight came up with some surprisingly result. The first thing that catches my attention were the rising searches of Vtiger CRM (+1.400%) but also Sugar CRM (+650%) both of them opensource CRM. Where is Oracle CRM On Demand and Salesforce?

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As conclusion Google Insights helps us to compare the world’s interest on any topic. And after we had a look the results:

  • Why is the interest of CRM less than in 2004?
  • Why are the opensource CRMs a rising searches?
  • Why dont CRM companies don’t use Google Insight to focus the marketing campaigns where they are not so popular as they competitors?
  • Why the sales people don’t use it to know what are the customers interested in?
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Which company would you choose in recession?

We see how different companies are going into bankruptcy since this “credit crunch” has started. However, we must say that there has not been “big” collapses in IT companies. They have not been that affected as much as other industries. Anyway, they have indeed had:

- Reduction of their sales.

- Reduction of the forecasting.

- Depreciation of their value in the Stock Exchange.

Regarding the third point, we have seen how shares of big companies from the industry have been reduced across 2008 fiscal year (this is nothing new, if we have a look at the stocks all over the world); Moreover, we have also seen how they are announcing their “new innovative” strategies, very often with workforce cut-downs (as well as other operative costs) to be able to cope with this “transition period”. So well, what they are showing in the Stock Exchange that this could be a real picture of the realistic situation they are having.

Because in this blog we are supposed to be talking about CRM ( Customer Relationship Management), and just a an start-up, I want to throw out a reflexion: “watch very carefully what the capitalization of your provider is, and then compare it with against their competitors.” Would you base the decision on your provider situation?. I my own company, I would do it?. My customer Data should be in “the right place”.

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How Twitter has changed the relationship company-customer

This is my first post.

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Last week I was at the office and I received one mail of one colleague with the subject: “Salesforce down”. I opened it to go deeper and I discovered one word: “Twitter”. Yes, customers informed the world in hours that they were having problems with theirCRM…

So, let´s explore the difference since 5 years ago:

  • Now customers can inform almost in real time to the world that something is not working in their product.
  • Probably now companies should be ready to react in real time.
  • From the company providing information to the customer real information.
  • To the world of company “success histories” to customer experience.

If we think on how the customer decision are made (choose range of product for my need, then look for a review from other customers, then look for the cheapest one… everything in Internet) the relationships in the market have changed, and guess what, to the customer side!.

But as we would like to help companies to get a real marketplace what can companies do? Probably bring all these customer experiences inside the company influence, something similar to a real corporate-customer status updates… but we will speak in other post about that, anyway, is CRM the answer?

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Going deep into consultative selling interactions (1 of 4)

Part 1: The complete lifecycle of a lead

  • Selling CRM - what is my methodology?
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For a long time, I just couldn’t figure it out. Some sales people seemed to get so much deeper into the conversations with customers than I was able to, even after I was really happy with some of the conversations I had had. I made it my mission to find out how to do this, and what their secrets were. This article is the result of that.

My most profound understanding struck me after a conversation I had with a friend, who is incidentally also a sales person. We talked for a long time, and he helped me figure out some pieces of the puzzles I had been trying to figure out since I started the mission - how to get really deep into the understanding of customers situation, and how to use this knowledge to make the situation more effective.
This is a 4-part series, and in it I will explain what I call “The Deep Understanding” phase of an interaction that a sales person normally has with a potential customer (I will call it prospect in this article). This phase, if done and if done well, does not only help a sales person understand the prospect better, but it also helps the prospects get a more valuable experience from their conversations with the sales person, and in the end a better fitted solution for their needs. The Deep Understanding phase is, in my opinion, what consultative selling is really about.
The complete life cycle of a lead and where I will focus

Before getting into my hands, a prospect usually starts out as just a company name among many others in a campaign. The first step it goes through is profiling, where some contacts in the company are found. After that, I have to find the ones where there is a pain - something the customer is not satisfied with, and we can help them with. Generally, this would be “finding or creating interest”. However, CRM is so well known by now, that it really is more about the finding interest than the creating of it. In todays world, company decision makers are savvy enough about CRM to know whether or not they are interested in investigating other systems, without me convincing them. So for me, this is really about finding a prospect that is open to exploring how they would benefit from improved sales processes or from a new CRM system.
The next step is what most people call “qualifying”, but this is where transactional selling (at least in my mind) first separates itself from consultative selling. In my view, qualifying is really the step I just did - it is to see if someone is willing to talk to me about their needs in a particular area to see if I can help them. If they are, then in my view they are qualified, and it is time to go into the step I call “Basic Understanding”.
Basic understanding differs from the traditional meaning of “qualifying” in the literal sence. The word “qualify” implies that we are hostile towards our prospects until they have proved themselves worthy of us. Even if this is not how most (serious) sales people really view it, I believe that the words we use do affect the way we see the world. “Basic understanding” instead implies that we are all standing on equal ground, and I will do my best to understand what the prospect needs and if I can help them achieve it.
The “Basic understanding” phase is where we try to get a general understanding of the pains of the company and the prospect. For a CRM-related case, it might be things like “it’s difficult to have an overview of the data or what the salespeople are doing”, “I can’t forecast accurately”, “it is difficult to follow up the campaigns”, or “we don’t have firm sales processes in place, every sales rep does it his or her own way”. This is also where we ask all the typical questions about budget, timeframe, decision making process and number of users. This stage is often over fairly quickly - it can take anywhere between 5-10 minutes. Once we have found that they are in a situation where we would probably be able to make their lives easier, it is time to take it to the next level. And this is where things really get interesting.
Introduction to the “Deep Understanding” phase

After going throuch the Basic Understanding phase together with a prospect, it is time for the step I simply call the “Deep Understanding” phase. So to summarize, a prospect usually goes through the following stages:
1. Profiling.
2. Finding interest.
3. Basic understanding.
4. Deep understanding.
The Deep Understanding phase is what I really wrote this article series for - it is where consultative selling is really done, it is where we really differentiate ourselves from our competitors, and where we give the real value to the prospect. It consists of 3 main parts, and I will go through each of them in the coming 3 parts of this series.
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